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'Isaac Stein' ?
« on: November 14, 2010, 04:43:30 pm »

In Guardian Angels' character profiles, you typed up Stein's full name as 'Isaac Stein'. My question is, where did you get his full name? I can't find any mention of it in Perfect Works. It just says "His real name is Stein."

Also, where did you get the info that Kelvena "is employed by the Intelligence Bureau"? I know the GA profiles are old now, have a lot of guess work, and sometimes based on problematic translations of PW, but these seem like you had obtained the info from some other source?
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Re: 'Isaac Stein' ?
« Reply #1 on: December 17, 2010, 01:51:03 am »

'Isaac' might come from Soraya Saga materials, e.g. illustrations or dojinshi, but this more of a guess than recollection on my end, too.
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« Reply #2 on: December 17, 2010, 04:58:58 pm »

That's what I suspect (and what I wrote in my Stein profile on Study Guide), but I still need confirmation on it. I don't like rumors...
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Re: 'Isaac Stein' ?
« Reply #3 on: December 18, 2010, 08:59:10 am »

I can't say for sure now about the Kelvena tidbit since it's been more than a decade, but I think that came from a forum discussion with Mrs. Saga.  Alternately, it could have been a cross-reference with Shitan's PW information (since they were both Water), but I don't think that's in his profile, or Ramsus's.

'Isaac' did indeed come from her artwork, my logic probably being that Mrs. Saga was one of the designers.
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Re: 'Isaac Stein' ?
« Reply #4 on: December 18, 2010, 03:35:17 pm »

'Isaac' did indeed come from her artwork, my logic probably being that Mrs. Saga was one of the designers.

Interesting. Did you save this particular artwork?

If not, was it Stein, or just some random character called 'Isaac' that happened to look like Stein? I've noticed that Soraya does that at times, create characters that are, or looks like, Xeno fan art but gives them completely different names. For example, the grown up Jr. was called Russell the maverick.
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Re: 'Isaac Stein' ?
« Reply #5 on: December 18, 2010, 08:30:14 pm »

It looks like him to me.  The design on his hem matches the drawing of the Ethos officials on page 274, if you have the book handy, and also logically follows the collar of Stein's portrait in the game.

Back in the day she did a lot more sketches of the Xeno characters themselves than she does now (or, maybe she was "allowed" to do more than she does now?  I don't know how that works in Japan).  That's where the drawings of Sigurd's family came from, for example.
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Re: 'Isaac Stein' ?
« Reply #6 on: December 19, 2010, 01:17:26 pm »

So you did have it on GA. I thought I checked all corners of your site but I must've overlooked it because it was in Jessie's shrine. Well that clears things up, thanks.  smiley
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